5k Running times

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5k Running times

Postby Toks » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:17 pm

Ok I know in 10 mile Cycling TT's 30mins is the benchmark for newbies. What should a running novice be aiming for at 5k?
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby carl f » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:35 pm

how much current training is the novice runner doing?
If a newbie to running not training much then 30 mins i guess,but it depends on their ability
If newbie is a complete novice as in never ran before then 30-40 mins
Go on toks is it you?,if so then i reckon you'll be a sub 20 :D
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby Toks » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:33 pm

[quote="carl f"]how much current training is the novice runner doing?
If a newbie to running not training much then 30 mins i guess,but it depends on their ability
If newbie is a complete novice as in never ran before then 30-40 mins
Go on toks is it you?,if so then i reckon you'll be a sub 20 :D
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Yeah its me. I managed 23mins.40sec (2 laps of Finsbury Park, approx 5k according to Steph Garmin). I definitley feel that I can run faster but I don't want to get an injury through my overzealouness
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby kieran » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:38 pm

so have you also been converted to dual-tri events?
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby Toks » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:47 pm

[quote="kieran"]so have you also been converted to dual-tri events?
Truth be told I'm just an injury prone former sunday league footballer who is glad he made the switched to cycling. :D Everytime I to do some 'running training' I get injured so we'll see what happens :D
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby Marek » Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:52 am

Probably obvious, but make sure you have decent running trainers that suit your running style. This will really help to keep the injuries at bay. Someone told me a horrible stat that those that do running training/running as their main sport, 65% of them will have some kind of injury throughout the year. As you know I have done a bit of running this year, you should be aiming for sub 20 minutes but I would build up to it gradually. You know the benefits of interval training so this will probably be your best way of achieving your goal.

Maybe we can have an ACC running race at the Banstead 5km on Saturday morning in a couple of months once the cycle season has finished.

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Re: 5k Running times

Postby carl f » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:38 am

As marek sais,good shoes and build up to it slowly. A sub 20 is poss especially with your biking base you have
Calf injury's are a big problem for me,must have had 4+ this year,sitting here with my right calf on a bag of frozen peas as i write this :(
Yes to an addiscombe 5k race,good idea
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby huw williams » Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:47 am

[quote="Toks"] Yeah its me. I managed 23mins.40sec (2 laps of Finsbury Park, approx 5k according to Steph Garmin). I definitley feel that I can run faster but I don't want to get an injury through my overzealouness


Protect yourself from potential injury by very, and I mean VERY gradual increases in pace and distance. Also keep the frequency that you run low to begin with and concentrate more on strengthening the relevant muscle groups, knees and hips with weight training and flexibility drills - this will quickly improve your stride-length and stride frequency which are two of the most common limiters in novice runners and the main reason they pick up injuries early in their programmes.

If you want specific strength and flexibility routines to improve your running we'll have a chat after the race next weekend and I'll run through them with you...

Then I'll see you on the line on the 27th for the Switchback 5 :D

http://www.stridersofcroydon.co.uk/

And anybody else who want's to join me of course???
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby Dominic » Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:25 am

[quote="Marek"]Probably obvious, but make sure you have decent running trainers that suit your running style. This will really help to keep the injuries at bay. Someone told me a horrible stat that those that do running training/running as their main sport, 65% of them will have some kind of injury throughout the year.


Certain sections of this book dispute the trainers theory and say that it is the trainers themselves that are responsible for the injuries. Wether you agree or not it is still a very good read:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Run-ultra- ... 938&sr=1-1
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby Paul H » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:46 pm

Think about your technique when running (On landing, the foot should be directly below the body).

As Huw said, build up the mileage and pace slowly. Also run off road as much as you can. Running off road on uneven ground is good for strenghening your back muscles.

Im not sure about high tech trainers as well. The Kenyans dont use them.

Read Coulsdon's local hero Gordon Pirie's book, its has a lot of info on technique and trainers. Apparently he ran over 200,000 miles in his lifetime without any significant injuries.

[url]http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Pressbox/2204/Gordon_book_040104.pdf[/url]
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby Sylv » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:25 am

[quote="huw williams"]Then I'll see you on the line on the 27th for the Switchback 5 :D

http://www.stridersofcroydon.co.uk/

And anybody else who want's to join me of course???

Is there a course map somewhere? Is ACC affiliated? Are the Kenyans turning up this year???
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby nick de meyer » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:14 am

there is quite a big carryover in fitness from cycling to running
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby huw williams » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:19 am

Yep there's a course map on the Croydon Strider's website - it's an open event so anyone can run and the entry fee is reduced to £6 EOL this year

I'd be surprised if those Kenyan's didn't turn up as this is getting to be quite a big event these days
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby Paul H » Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:13 pm

Join South London Harriers, and there are loads of races you can enter for free over the winter.
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Re: 5k Running times

Postby Toks » Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:23 pm

Thanks for the advice guys :D
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