Rob's training Advice

[Toks]

[quote="Andrew G"]
Who said it did?

[Toks]

[quote="Robh"]
You forgot something Toks just corrected your text hope you don't mind. It's in bold incase you fail to miss it...

[Keith]

[quote="Toks"]John you appear to be swimming in that big old african river called De-nile if you think the small merry band of competitive ACC cyclists including yourself are doing it for fun...

[Stu Merckx Man]

i enjoy training, so its alllll good

[Toks]

[quote="Keith"]
The competitive bit is the most fun.

[quote="Toks"][quote="Keith"]
The competitive bit is the most fun.

[quote="Toks"][quote="Andrew G"]
Who said it did?

[Toks]

[quote="Andrew G"][You need different training for different races and results, simple as that. Someone specialising in 1hr crits won't need the same same training as a 100 mile TT specialist .

[Paul H]

Andrew - why dont you experiment with high intensity training for one season to see if you can improve your TT pbs. Whats the worst that can happen?

[Juerg FaCT]

Just a short thought in this ongoing discussion:
High intensity periods in cyclist programsometgimescan realymakeabig difference.
There is a question when and how much:
This is realy the reason, why we work on FaCT ideas and the idea to find physiological biomarker to assess, whatthe actual limiting system is.
If during a test we see,that the pulmonary system is of no limitation, the same in the cardiac system, no limitation and it makes theclear picture, that there is a peripheral limitation with certain muscle activities, than it is clear the time you go to a higher intensity, asany stress has to be sen as acontrollled overload.
This is exactly what FaCT is all about. Assessing and than make a new conclusion based on te trend over the last few tests and again at the right time a intense to a very intense training period may be needed to stress thebody for the next higher level.
A regular assessment and comparing the reaction of the biomarkers will help to find the right timing, when to change from one specific stressor to another.
The time which is needed isvery individual and therefor the so called periodisations are very individual as well.
Goodluck and yes better try and assess, than just to discuss

[huw williams]

Thanks Juerg - I've taken the trouble to translate this into english as far as possible to help make it a little clearer. Please feel free to re-correct anything that I've lost in translation

Just a short thought in this ongoing discussion:

High intensity periods in training programmes sometimes can realy make a big difference. The questions are when to switch intensities and by how much: This is realy the reason why we work on FaCT ideas, hoping to find physiological biomarker to assess what the actual limiting system is.

If during a test we discover that the pulmonary and cardiac systems are not the limitation, and it’s clear that there is a peripheral limitation with certain muscle activities, then it is clear when you need to go to a higher intensity as any stress has to be added as controllled overload.

This is exactly what FaCT is all about. Assessing and than making new conclusions based on the trend over the previous tests and assessing the point at which a switch from intense to a very intense training period may be needed to stress the body for the next higher level.

A regular assessment and comparing the reaction of the biomarkers will help to find the right timing, when to change from one specific stressor to another. The time for this is very individual and the so called periodisations are very individual as well.

Good luck, and yes its better to establish this through tests rather than just to discuss the theory.

[Keith]

[quote="huw williams"] I've taken the trouble to translate this into english

[Paul H]

[quote]This is exactly what FaCT is all about. Assessing and than making new conclusions based on the trend over the previous tests and assessing the point at which a switch from intense to a very intense training period may be needed to stress the body for the next higher level.

[quote="Keith"][quote="huw williams"] I've taken the trouble to translate this into english

[quote="huw williams"][quote="Keith"][quote="huw williams"] I've taken the trouble to translate this into english