Living off the fat of the land

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Living off the fat of the land

Postby Marky Mark » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:12 pm

[size=150]Fat burning, QUESTION :?: [/size]

I for one have a few spare rolls I'd like to get shot of.

My question to you all is......
Apart from the obvious of eat less ride more and get slimmer!
Is it a truth or a common misconception that you need to exercise a certain area to lose the flab from that area?
No I don't watch QVC 8)

i.e. I've noticed my legs have slimmed down after doing loads of LBP-20 on my turbo.
Even though my Basic Intensity STF zone is 114-130(HR), is that also my fat burning zone.
Rob, can you clear this one up for me.

Are the workings of a human body that lazy that it can't be bothered to get it from other areas?
Will it use the leg reserves up first then go looking in other places?

Will I end up with matchstick legs and a belly like father Christmas?

I'll give Sean 4 minutes to come back with a class comment....

Marky Mark :wink:
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Michelle » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:25 pm

Yes Mark your STF training zone is your fat burning zone. Which is why your legs are gonna start looking really buff!

I am afraid to say that where you are prone to put on fat, that it will prefer to stay there, and to be honest you would have to slim down entirely in order to lose all the wobbly bits.

From what I remember, when you exercise certain bits of your body in order to lose the fat (eg doing loads of sit ups or stomach crunches to get rid of a belly) what you end up doing is toning and increasing the muscles in that area, but not necessarily losing fat from that area.

Any other info from anyone else?
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Andrew G » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:38 pm

Try a pair of these Mark.
[img]http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50352064/Girdle.jpg[/img]
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Jon H » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:41 pm

All you need to know:
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Snoop Doug » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:11 pm

[quote="Marky Mark"]Is it a truth or a common misconception that you need to exercise a certain area to lose the flab from that area?
No I don't watch QVC 8)


It's not a misconception feller, it's a downright lie
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Marky Mark » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:02 pm

[quote="Andrew G"]Try a pair of these Mark.
[img]http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50352064/Girdle.jpg[/img]


I've already got them in black and pink :wink:
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Grahame » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:11 pm

[quote="Marky Mark"][quote="Andrew G"]Try a pair of these Mark.
[img]http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50352064/Girdle.jpg[/img]


I've already got them in black and pink :wink:

So you've got a pro-slimming contract for T-Mobile?
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Marky Mark » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:22 pm

I might not sign up for that one :lol: :lol:

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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby MattI » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:10 pm

[quote]i.e. I've noticed my legs have slimmed down after doing loads of LBP-20 on my turbo.

SO What you are saying is that you have lost muscle mass since doing all this LBP-20 stuff.
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby huw williams » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:01 am

[quote="Michelle"] From what I remember, when you exercise certain bits of your body in order to lose the fat (eg doing loads of sit ups or stomach crunches to get rid of a belly) what you end up doing is toning and increasing the muscles in that area, but not necessarily losing fat from that area. Any other info from anyone else?


This is quite right I'm afraid Mark - You can't spot reduce fat. Many of the riders doing LBP-20 are reporting body shape changes (which in some cases are quite visible). But the areas where you most visibly loose weight from, is highly individual. Our fitness editor is remarkable, I can always tell when she's training well becuase her arse disappears :shock: yet the rest of her tends to stay the same shape despite the weight loss

If weight loss through cycling is your primary goal you need to look at things in terms of your overall body weight. Consider how much you weighed before you started LBP-20 riding and how much you weigh now having noticed some 'slimming down' in the legs. Are things heading in the right direction? Do you weigh less? It's quite possible to get a 'better shaped' body yet still put on weight, by increasing muscle mass (hypertrophy) in amounts which negate the effect of any weight loss through fat burning. This is a tricky balance to get right because most cyclists would want to maintain the amount of lean muscle tissue they have (and in some cases slightly increase it) yet loose weight.

But...

Anabolism, the process of building muscle, requires more calories taken in than expended, plus appropriate resistance exercises to stimulate the many cells involved in muscle development, and adequate rest to allow repair and growth of muscle tissue. Whereas weight loss involves fewer calories taken in than expended, so you would not have the excess calories required to build muscle. As a matter of fact, low calorie eating plans can result in protein deficiency and a decrease in muscle tissue

Stick with it - It won't be long before you can hold that 'plank' in pilates for a minute :D
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Snoop Doug » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:15 am

[quote="huw williams"]Our fitness editor is remarkable, I can always tell when she's training well becuase her arse disappears :shock: yet the rest of her tends to stay the same shape despite the weight loss


Now that's a party trick I'd like to see, the fitness editor and her amazing disappearing arse. Presumably she stands up at parties quite a lot :oops:

On the wider (ahem) point.......Shazbot!! Appears I may have been right fer once, though huw puts it better than I ever could.

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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Sylv » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:32 am

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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Marky Mark » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:14 pm

[quote="Sylv"]there's some to please each side: http://www.lematin.ch/fr/actu/economie/ ... _11-310488

Ah maunge toute Sylv as Derek Trotter would say. :wink:

And as for the Plank Huw, you are a tough cookie and I was very impressed with your fitness in the pilates class.
Even though Adam thinks that you are me!
That makes me very fit now.

So in response to your fat burning and trying to keep my @rse, It sure looks like a fine balance between eating too much and not doing enough exercise and doing not enough exercise and eating too little, followed by the wrong sort of diet and not enough rest and combinations of all the above :roll: .

I'm going to have to give this all some thought now, cheers for the info.
Slowly slowly catchy monkey. :wink:
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Daniel Gee » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:43 pm

You may find thats its softly softly catchee monkey, monkeys on the whole being fast buggars.

sorry brief attack of pedantitis.

The thing with losing weight & getting it to stay off is it takes f***ing forever & it does come off in specific areas at a time rather than nice and evenly so your gonna have to be patient while putting up with some decidedly odd changes to your silhouette :shock:

stick with though & don't lose focus & you'll be as as svelte as a svelte gazelle by the end of next summer :wink:

can't promise you'll be any faster though :lol:
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Re: Living off the fat of the land

Postby Andrew G » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:13 pm

[quote="Daniel Gee"]You may find thats its softly softly catchee monkey, monkeys on the whole being fast buggars.

sorry brief attack of pedantitis.

:lol: , oh and catchy and buggers :lol: .
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